Dynamics and Degrees - E37

Clancy Denton  0:00  
Welcome to the loud quiet. Ooh, empty nester. Okay. What does that mean?

Rick Denton  0:06  
I think that actually probably is the theme of the empty nes. What are we doing? Let's do this. Let's do this thing. Is this Recording. Yes, Okay,

Clancy Denton  0:15  
great. Sans, children just us we need a tissue box up here to follow along on our journey and maybe you know, we can learn from others.

Rick Denton  0:23  
I don't have a clue how to be an empty nester there.

Clancy Denton  0:25  
This is the loud, quiet, living the empty nest.

Rick Denton  0:30  
Everyone, welcome back to the loud quiet it is episode 37. And we're inside. And there's a little more smiles than last week. So thank you. Thanks, everybody, for being supportive of our grumbly episode last week. Not that life is magically immediately better, but it is amazing how moods can ebb and flow. And so today, it's a different conversation than last one. And I know I'm looking forward to talking and hopefully you all are and looking forward to listening and watching this one.

Clancy Denton  1:01  
Yeah, it is. We are inside. We did make it out to church today. But man, we had some bad storms come through during the night. Yeah, we were you know, not great. Sleep from 345 on but luckily no damage or anything. No, it

Rick Denton  1:19  
was it was how I'm gonna call it annoying. It was the kind of boom Big Thunder you wake up. And then you had enough time to drift back to sleep and you could feel yourself totally asleep. As opposed to the intense 30 minute one, but to your point, no damage. And we put inside yesterday. How is that? Hey, Clancy we put in dress yesterday. We

Clancy Denton  1:43  
didn't put in grass, but we are lovely lawn man that we love protecting our grass. We

Rick Denton  1:50  
support a capitalist economy and help provide so yeah. I'm very thankful that there was no damage and we got our sidewalk. It

Clancy Denton  1:59  
really did you know and what we're going to get into, you know, I did not get to have a lazy weekend morning, this weekend, which for those of you who really know me, sleep is my I love sleep. And when I don't get good sleep, it's not so good for anyone. It was gonna

Rick Denton  2:23  
say I wanted to see what your answer was there gonna be? It's not good for Clancy. Well, no, it's not good for everybody. Yeah, but

Clancy Denton  2:29  
it's been fine. But yeah, we you know, yesterday, and what are our first kind of topic is going to be about my brother and sister in law are here from Germany. And so we were having a meeting with my parents, just to go over some things. And you know, so it was funny talking. Just kind of realizing what your role is in the family dynamics of, you know, my family, absolutely. Your family, you know, you you probably have now taken on somewhat of a role in my family's dynamics just

Rick Denton  3:21  
it's amazing what experience will do and experiences will do to allowing someone to be inserted into a family, especially

Clancy Denton  3:28  
with the topics that we were discussing. And it's all about, you know, we just wanted to make sure that things were in order that we knew where things were anything end of life preparations

Rick Denton  3:41  
just Yeah, end of life preparation, both what happens after, but then also preparing up to end of life. And while there's no timeframe, none of us know that timeframe. It is a relief for everyone to have that conversation finalized when people are able to

Clancy Denton  3:58  
do it. Exactly. So again, like we've done, we are such a broken record. This is our PSA. And I mean, even this week, you looked at me and said, Can we talk about something else rather than living? Wish you'd put out that book

Rick Denton  4:21  
I'm gonna start a new consulting thing where it's I don't give legal advice, but you just come to us and we'll help

Clancy Denton  4:26  
you know it is interesting, though, because while we still did have our children in the house, our focus was solely on them and on their schedules and on their plans right. Now that they're gone. Like you said, the, the things and emptiness now have become more focused on our extended family and those kinds of things, you know, and because we're, you know, in a couple of situations that we didn't think we would find ourselves in but but yeah, it's, you know, so and my mom always Is it doesn't happen often that we are all three in the same place together, you know, three being the three children, children, which I'll show the picture and just like, um, but you know, so it I know it makes her very happy when we're all there and you know ribbing each other and you know what having a good time

Rick Denton  5:19  
you don't appreciate that not you, Clancy the general, you don't appreciate that. Until you enter this phase. It's like everything else, you don't appreciate what your parents did for you until you become a parent. Now, I understand why I want my children to be together, why I want to see them to your point, ribbing each other or enjoying each other. I also understand the flip side of being the child and not necessarily wanting to, to, like spend all of my time with, you know, when my parents were living and all of that I know what it's like to be the child as well. Now, I know what it's like to be the parent wishing that, you know, hey, it's all three are together. How delightful? Yeah.

Clancy Denton  5:58  
So yeah, so here, this is a picture of me and my two brothers, Chad and Casey. Chad is six years older than me, Casey is six years younger than me. So yes, I am the middle. And, you know, I have taken on. And especially I could really see it yesterday, the role of the middle child, which is usually the peacemaker, sometimes the go between, you know, the

Rick Denton  6:29  
middle child ends up being the shuttle diplomat, the gulf between one side, I'll say something, and it has to get through your shouldn't but you take that role on.

Clancy Denton  6:37  
And I mean, I could even say it, and my dad and Chad would be totally fine with me, you know, talking about this, you know, they were starting to get a little at each other voices, were starting to go up a little bit, nothing crazy. But, you know, sometimes I'd have to say, okay, look, we can settle that later. We don't need to go, let's let's go down this path, you know, just kind of redirecting, it was also very good to have you there. Because, you know, like we've talked about, you have a wealth of knowledge. And now me as well into

Rick Denton  7:13  
making sure you have your crap together. And what happens when you don't when you're not that my family didn't have it together, but being exposed to what are the pain points are having?

Clancy Denton  7:27  
Yeah, having everything together? But then like, I mean, my dad had, he had his stack yesterday, and it was very well organized. Everything was, you know, we didn't know what we were walking into. But he

Rick Denton  7:41  
was very prepared. Yes. What's it here's something though, for say there's not necessarily well empty nesters and you've got kids, you may feel prepared, you may actually be prepared. If you haven't communicated that to your kids. Exactly. They could be in a situation of not knowing where to look for things where the passwords all that stuff. That's a part of it. It was great for us to walk in for it to be so well put together that your dad did. And it was great to have that conversation to know and there were a few gaps that were discovered, but they were not massively consequential gaps, just wondering like, okay, good, let's go take care of that.

Clancy Denton  8:17  
And, and especially with an you know, just again, uh, you know, power of attorneys, all those kinds of things. You know, you realized, oh, wait, there's y'all have y'all have one missing, you know, that needs to be addressed. And so again, that was good that we've already kind of been down that path with,

Rick Denton  8:37  
here's your I don't know that we've set on the air on the air. From the upstairs studio, it's t o Q. I'm sorry, if I blast anybody's here. I need 3k to drink the one of a and you wouldn't do it until a later stage of life. But having the child beyond the parents bank account? I don't think we've mentioned that one. And that is one that is so important, because the moment that a death happens, the bank cuts it off. Yeah. But if the child has access, there's no there's no cut off because you have access and it's

Clancy Denton  9:17  
not even if a death occurs. It's you know, my mom had to go on her mom's my grandmother's account because you know, she was starting to go down the path of dementia and was writing like one cent checks to the you know, so just so you have access if it becomes a time that you need to have access to great point. It's not just Yeah, so things

Rick Denton  9:43  
that aren't thought about is how do you keep the utilities on how do you keep the the water bill paid the electrical paid the cellphone bills, like all of those sorts of things are why that checking account access actually matters because, man when things get locked down, they get locked down but creditors the people A lot of the bills are getting paid to don't care, well still want to be paid. And

Clancy Denton  10:03  
what's different with our generation versus our parents is that we pretty much have everything tied to a credit card. A lot of our stuff doesn't come directly out of our checking account, whereas they still kind of have a mix of both. And so, you know, that is another, you do need to have at least some access to it. But so

Rick Denton  10:32  
now we got ourselves into the topic of advice. Again, I know if you'd like to talk to us, we bill it $1,000 An hour and we're happy to consult for you to pick that number out of my family.

Clancy Denton  10:44  
Because, you know, we do we have had to learn and talk about that a lot in the past, you know, year and a half, two years, but, but yeah, but you know, we had a great time we celebrated my side of the family has a plethora of birthdays in March and April. You know, my sister and one of my sister in law's and I share the same birthday. Aren't your birthday

Rick Denton  11:09  
thought like that your brother married a woman that has your same birthday? That is Austin mayor and you know your brother and married her brother? I

Clancy Denton  11:19  
said that we are brother in law, but yeah, married her, you know, later in life that Yeah, that. So yes, we both have the same birthday. You have a march birthday? Cake, or Alison who's Casey's wife has an April birthday. My mom has an April birthday. Tegan has an April birthday. So we had a birthday cake for new Chad's because she didn't get to really celebrate in Germany. And so, right.

Rick Denton  11:47  
Even you talked about this. Chad's flight from South Africa got delayed, he wasn't able to be there, that sort of stuff. And so what did you give her? Oh, I told her that she can't do this

Clancy Denton  11:56  
anymore. I, when I had talked to her on her birthday, or after shortly after, I said, Oh, what did y'all do? And she said, And Chad said, Oh, well, she cooked me dinner. Because I missed her cooking. I was like, No, and we need to have a chat. I was like, Yeah, we don't do that.

Rick Denton  12:14  
On your birthday. Yeah, you don't cook. And it was Chad's flight delay. There was some reasons behind it still, and they were helping her understand the ways. So you

Clancy Denton  12:24  
know, we took several pictures, I didn't put any of those. But we might put one later, you know, of all four girls, because we all have March, April birthdays. And so it was just it was a nice afternoon, or morning, afternoon time to get to spend together. You know, they came in for Tanner's graduation, which we'll get to but you know, next weekend, so. But yeah, it was, but it is it's, you know, like we were talking about family dynamics, and kind of the roles that you take on as your parents get older, you know, it's it's roles that you probably already had as a child, but you just didn't really get to see them manifest so much until later in life, I think for some things and

Rick Denton  13:16  
and I'll say yes. And there's probably some that you didn't feel the authority to take on. Maybe it's part of the personality, like you're talking about the middle child, the stereotypical Peacemaker. There's that mental shift, and it's a it's a important importance, the wrong word, but just one that can be hard to get over recognizing No, wait, I need to no longer be the, I'm getting the guidance from the generation above, I need to be helping lead them forward, I need to guiding them forward. And, and it's, it can still be even when you know that that's what needs to be done. It can be uncomfortable. Because that's the generation before you respect your elders, that sort of thing. And so to start to take that role, no, this is the way it's got to be this is what needs to happen. And I in the case of your parents, there was no conflict there. Yeah, it just it can be a difficult place to be. And I don't know that you realize it going back to the empty nest, until suddenly the kids are out of the house and you realize, oh, I won't have the space to do this, which then allows you to realize the need or I guess maybe the space allows you to realize the need, which gives you the time to actually do what needs to be done. And

Clancy Denton  14:31  
that's what that's such a good segue into what I want you to talk about because you losing your father at such a young age, you know, we were 30 Okay, I'm not gonna do the math, right. Yeah. But I mean, Tanner was what had just turned one in June. And so

Rick Denton  14:52  
30 like you may have been 29 And maybe it's somewhere in that Yeah.

Clancy Denton  14:56  
And what you just said about having the time and space You know, we had a one year old. And you, you know, had to take on some roles that you weren't necessarily prepared or ready or had the time to do and

Rick Denton  15:14  
no one is prepared for a an unexpected sudden passing of a family member, you know, 57. Right. And, and I gotta tell you, I don't even remember exactly, I don't know how much I actually did or didn't do. Certainly, during, during the funeral stage. I remember elements of time, the paper about an obituary, they wanted to do their things. It's just such a blur. And I think it's that element of it's such a blur that I don't know that I remembered doing that much. I clearly had to my mom had to step up. But getting introduced to that part of caring for a parent, when you are still so deeply invest in kind of the raising your own kids face one year old, soon to be another one on the way a few years later. I don't know that I necessarily achieved that role, as well, as I have sort of stepped into it now that we're in that emptiness stage.

Clancy Denton  16:11  
Well, let me talk about it from my perspective, because because I do I mean, you know, there were multiple and this was before, texting was really a thing. There are multiple phone calls of tech support. Oh, you had to be able to you thank goodness that you the technology was where you could see your mom's computer shine arc, and it was awful and good. But you know, so there were there.

Rick Denton  16:46  
That's right. Tech support was mass. Yeah, I kind of diminish that. Yeah. Because I don't think of that as the same deep relationship. But my mom couldn't do a whole lot of thing.

Clancy Denton  16:54  
Yeah. I mean, and your mom could do, I mean, do a lot of things. But the computer technology, you know, that's, I remember a lot of that you ran. Just, you know, that's

Rick Denton  17:10  
why we joked about that. One of the best things that happened when Rachel and Steven, my sister and her brother moved to Austin, San Francisco was I said, I have resigned from tech support. It is all the Browns at that point. And I did, I resigned.

Clancy Denton  17:24  
I think at that point, though, she pretty much gotten the hang of it. But I was out and it was a key point of that. But you know, I you know, there were just there were things that, you know, you took on the role of you know, you walked her sister down the aisle, you you know, which, which made my role at the wedding. You haven't really got as much fun, but

Rick Denton  17:46  
Well, let's explain why it wasn't just oh my gosh, my husband's walking assisted on the you had a how many week old? Yeah,

Clancy Denton  17:52  
Tegan was two and a half weeks old, three weeks old. And Tanner was almost three. Thank goodness, my parents came down. But yeah, I you know, you were involved in all the wedding party stuff. And I was, and I've said this, I went to Chick fil A to get trays for the kids that didn't even eat and yeah, it was I've

Rick Denton  18:14  
said this. I don't I don't think I managed that. Well. I also think that I don't know that there's a playbook on how to manage it. Well, in retrospect, I know what could have been done differently. You were definitely thrust into a role. And I think that's why the natural order of things is it's easier to be thrust into this role when you're an empty nester. Like, some of what we're doing now is just part of the natural course of things. And carry Yeah, I

Clancy Denton  18:42  
don't have a three week old I'm trying to be up in some room breastfeeding and doing in my wedding.

Rick Denton  18:49  
I was gonna say, a wedding attire has the breastfeeding flap.

Clancy Denton  18:54  
Well, that point I think I was still no at that point. I was still wearing probably a maternity thing because it was three weeks. But yeah.

Rick Denton  19:03  
So it will be counselors, and we're going to design maternity

Clancy Denton  19:06  
wear, no idea, no desire to get back into that realm. So talking

Rick Denton  19:11  
about it now, though, adopting the role, and I is that's been a it's been a unique challenge, because and I will start this by saying that I am going in assuming positive intent because we have seen positive intent. We we truly believe in the parties involved and my family right now. And I'm speaking specifically Jerry, Rachel and me of kind of my immediate family. Everyone's looking at it, trying to find the best interests for the family. There are some upcoming major decisions though with the childhood home that I grew up in that I have no legal authority over whatsoever. But there's emotional and influential elements to it and trying to navigate that in a case where it's not necessarily even my dad, but it's a man who married my mom who was a wonderful guy to my mom. And going, those kind of role changes where you're trying to assume a position of influence or leadership, or even to use the word authority is a little too strong, but something like that. In a case where it's even, perhaps even more awkward that it's not technically your dad, but it's this wonderful guy, and it's all there. So working on that aspect of the shift, really trying, because these are important parts of my family, the property itself, like some of that sounds callous, but it is these are conversations that have to be had. And they're challenging.

Clancy Denton  20:42  
And I think we, you know, I think a new have always displayed this character trait, you're very good at mediating, you know, and it's, I'm not trying to use that word as, it's not like you've had to mediate between things going on. But, you know, one thing gets said, and another person hears it another way. And then you have been able to come in and kind of be like, the bridge between, okay, I think this is really what was being the intent behind what was being said and how it was received. And so yeah, you have definitely taken on that mediation role, and even you are very good at. And this was just your business, you know, way back from like, process, days, that you are very good at, boom, boom, boom, when we put it in an email, these are the things very clear cut very, you know, non emotional. And, you know, you have had to do that, even with, you know, Nana's stuff, too. And so

Rick Denton  22:06  
I think there's, well, thank you for that. Actually, that's a kind compliment to here it is, there's a lot of truth to how business can help inform this. And I've learned like, starting with what's the shared objective, like even when I was talking about that kind of in a rambley way, sorry, listeners and viewers, but that rambley way of kind of what's going on, and that side of it is saying that we're starting off from positive intent, I think that's an important thing to understand. If it's not there, then it needs to be called out. We all have differing objectives, and we've got to find these objectives. But starting by these are the agreed upon objectives. We all think this is what we want to do. Now, here's what I'm hearing. I love these phrases. I'm hearing you say this, and I'm hearing you say this, this this have I heard you both correctly,

Clancy Denton  22:53  
that goes back to marriage,

Rick Denton  22:57  
counseling and therapists use that phrase, starting though with the objectives. Do we all agree that these are objective? And usually, they're ones that I mean, it's kind of America and apple pie that we all agree x? Well, okay, unless you think that the sky is not blue, it's really hard not to you set these sort of things. I could, I could go on a completely different tangent about that. But you're right, that trying to help. This stage of life, and these conversations can be so explosive. It can destroy facts. And I don't want that. And I can assure you, no one actually wants that. And so finding a way to navigate through what should be innocuous conversations that could end up being worse. It's a it's, it's, it's important there. And

Clancy Denton  23:51  
that's one thing, what you just said was what I was gonna say is that, luckily, and thank God that, you know, so far, our families, both sides are on, you know, there's no there's no like, nothing has been there's no severs in any relationship. There's no, you know, anger or resentment. You know, like, even yesterday, when we were talking about a few things. You know, Chad, and I just kind of looked at each other, and we're like, no one and no one. No, none of the three of us are gonna fight over. Who gets the sideboard who gets the you know, and my mom has laid it out in the will that they did years ago. This person gets this because we kind of told her what we wanted and I'm going through that list was like, Yeah, I don't want that anymore. I don't think it's out available. I don't think it's going to be issue. And so that's

Rick Denton  25:02  
an Well, you know, we could this is not a thread we have the time to talk about. But I think one thing that sort of helps our generation in that case is, in most cases, for the socio economic class that we are in our families are the objects that are available, aren't really what we're all interested in the objects are not the the thing that matters, the memories. And I think there may have been generations past where objects mattered, or there were certain things that were functional or elements like that. It's the case on the Denton side and the SI that I think a lot of folks like, I don't want to get out of my house. So there's something about our generation that cares a little less about stuff.

Clancy Denton  25:43  
Well, and yes, I because I think the generation above us antiques were a huge thing back then. And you know, and times have changed. And even, you know, I was talking to someone this week earlier, you know, that mentioned, the consignment stores are even closing. Yeah. And because people just don't want write that stuff, you know, unless, you know, there's things that my mom has that have sentimental value to my brothers, and there are things that they want, you know, it's so funny. I'm always like, do not bring anything home do not Well, my dad pulled me into his office yesterday, he was like, Hey, I found this do you want it? And I was actually like, oh, my gosh, and it's this just little rectangle or, you know, rectangle thing of coins that are in this little case? And I was like, Yeah, I said, I remember playing with this and holding it. And I didn't even realize I don't think at the time, he was like, well, that's your birth year, your grandfather did this for your brand. I was like, yeah, actually, I do want that. I don't know what I'm gonna do with it. But it had, that's the first thing I think, I'm like, or anyone that I'm like, Oh, wait, I actually want so

Rick Denton  27:07  
and it has almost no monetary value whatsoever. And I think that's gonna be the stuff that we might want to care about, we'll have an emotional tie, but there's, there's not gonna be a lot of fighting over who I want that piece or that piece. Because, yeah,

Clancy Denton  27:21  
and, you know, I do want to mention, you know, our siblings, younger ones, you know, still have children and children that are, you know, middle school and below. And so, you know, sometimes we we don't want to burden them with some of these discussions, because they have other things going on, just like we did when we had kids that age, you know, and, and, and the kids certainly don't want to be around for these discussions, really. So. So yeah, I just, you know, wanted to throw that in there that I get that, you know, there's times that, you know, and no decisions were being made on anything. It was just point about

Rick Denton  28:07  
roles. Yeah. Right. And adopting different roles. And now decisions wouldn't be made in the absence of family. Organization. Yes.

Clancy Denton  28:15  
This was just making sure everyone knew where this stuff is. Because you know, it people like to hide stuff. Yeah. And it'll you know, being the daughter that lives here, a lot of it will fall on me,

Rick Denton  28:29  
but there's a tip Yeah. empty nesters. Go talk to your parents right now. Which bags are trashed? You actually hide money in which book? Did you put a savings bond? Yeah, which mattress has the pearls under? I'm not

Clancy Denton  28:46  
I don't know. There you're not gonna find anything? out anywhere. So. Yeah, but yeah. So yeah, it was a good it just ended up you know, it was a great discussion. Good day spending time with Newman, Chad that we haven't seen. You know, we haven't seen him in a long time. So that was nice. And I really enjoyed that. And you know, and of course, we were all talking about graduations. You know, my younger brothers actually graduating from Texas Tech, with his degree and so his graduation ceremony is the weekend after Tanner's my parents and Chad Noom will be there. We will not because we will still be in Arizona but but yeah, so we're you know, graduations graduations coming up. We're

Rick Denton  29:32  
not going to talk a lot about it now because we're going next week. Yeah, that's what so this upset will drop on Thursday. We will be on a plane Saturday. In the past after that very, very near past.

Clancy Denton  29:45  
Sorry, no, we'll be here. You've just listed a long way to do this podcast. We're gonna have had it. I have

Rick Denton  29:59  
real We really armed neighbors. And that's not a joke. But yeah, so we'll be so we are entering graduation season. We'll talk about that after happens. And we may not even have an episode next week. We don't even know what that looks like. But we're entering this season and the tears are starting to float. Why is that? Well,

Clancy Denton  30:19  
okay, yeah, Tanner did his graduation photos. This if you're listening this week, as a real put up a few you know, and yeah, when I when he sent them to us, so here, I do like that Arizona does the big year 2020 20 For big sign that they can go and take their pictures in front of and then, of course, the palm walk, which is the

Rick Denton  30:44  
you know, it is the classic. Yeah, there's a sidewalk, there are poems that line it. I really want you if you're if you're watching, just go over to YouTube and have a look. This is so yeah,

Clancy Denton  30:55  
I mean, I actually showed it to someone at church this morning. And she said, Oh, is that real? Like it almost looks green screen like he's in front of a green screen. But no, my palm walk is real. And I mean, they have one of the best. And then here's Oh, whoops. Well, yeah. So here's the side by side of

Rick Denton  31:14  
it was a side by side, the first picture was taken. Montana was on his college tour their senior year of high school. So there's the poem walk before, when we were on the tour going, oh my gosh, look at those people. There's so old looking. Yeah, he's the the old.

Clancy Denton  31:31  
Taking pictures, pictures, but yeah, so they do have I mean, all of his pictures were awesome. The campus is just the best backdrop for pictures. He looks

Rick Denton  31:42  
like you know what? That looked like a picture that was taken in 2020. It looks like a picture that was taken in 1970. His hairstyle? It's kind of faded somehow. Yeah.

Clancy Denton  31:55  
Okay, I don't look at. But what's interesting is, like, look at the Tom's like, how they must have come through and then them all out or something because they're much heavier on the side of, but yeah, so that's. So we'll talk about, and, you know, during the season, I actually sent this side by side that I had created to them, and I said, Oh, you know, someone had a glow up? And for those of you that want that. Yeah, you were like, is that a term? And? And I told you Yeah, it's just you know, called, I've seen it on housewives. I've seen it on threads. But what's so funny is that there was actually a tick tock that someone have a podcast. And they were specifically talking about the ASU glow up there. Like what happened, what happens to these kids when they go to ASU? Interest? I'm sure they were more specifically talking about girls. But they said, and yeah, that was the title of the ASU glow. I was like, Oh, funny. So yeah. So yeah, we're super excited. I mean, and I did, I was I was getting Geordi when I saw these pictures, I mean, these four years have just flown by, for us. And I put that in, you know, for us, it may not have for him, but man for us, it just went by so fast.

Rick Denton  33:21  
I'm a little bit of double mind on that when there's elements that seem quick, and there's elements that we enter things because we we've enjoyed it so thoroughly that I can I can read. And maybe that's the thing that I would share here is don't let it fly by and we didn't not in a helicopter way but we were out there were enjoying his company, but then also enjoying hearing about it and just there's a lot of great memories that we have in this and those memories helped fill the cup to where it doesn't seem as quick as it might yet. When I look at that picture, I think wait, that was just Valentine's Day 2012 That was what

Clancy Denton  33:59  
I know. And that's that's what I think we have had so much fun on his campus with his friends in Tempe and Phoenix and and it has been nice for us that he has had a great experience there was never I mean I can't think of any

Rick Denton  34:24  
you know there's there's a couple of like highs and lows but no hope overly yeah, there's Yes. The one that's comical is when they got COVID in the dorm their freshman year in the food service. Oh yeah. Right. So

Clancy Denton  34:36  
these are the 2020 kids so they were already doing class in their dorm room. You know, he didn't even step foot in a classroom until second semester. So you know, that every everyone is posting. These kids want to do everything for graduation because some of them thank goodness we did but some of them didn't even get to have a graduation ceremony. So

Rick Denton  35:00  
they will be doing things talking about we're Oh,

Clancy Denton  35:03  
that's what Yeah, no,

Rick Denton  35:04  
what's the text?

Clancy Denton  35:05  
No, I didn't do that.

Rick Denton  35:06  
Well, we're gonna be doing a bar crawl on Saturday. Yes. Don't

Clancy Denton  35:10  
call it a pub crawl because standard laughed at me yesterday for calling it a pub crisis. Okay, that's what we called. We

Rick Denton  35:17  
will be we will be participating with the seniors if our flight gets there on time. We'll be kind of late but whatever. So yeah, you're here this Thursday, we made

Clancy Denton  35:24  
the bar crawl. We have so many fun things, but

Rick Denton  35:26  
we got to talk about it later. I

Clancy Denton  35:27  
know we will. But it's it's just it's gonna be a fun week. You know, we we did get a little people who I'm sure have been paying attention to the news, have seen that some colleges have started canceling classes. They've started canceling graduations. And I mean, and the protesters showed up on Tanner's campus and the flurry of response responses on Facebook from mom saying, if you try to cancel our graduation, because again, these are the COVID kids, you know, yeah, it I'll do my own protest.

Rick Denton  36:08  
I want to be very clear here. This has nothing to do with the issue. And no, it could be a protest to say we need people to love puppies. Yeah, I don't mess with my graduation now. So I don't care what your causes. Yeah, that's my graduate. Yeah. All right.

Clancy Denton  36:23  
That's our but but yeah, then when we when we were all like, oh, my gosh, there could be a threat to them canceling graduate, you know, but, and Tanner did say is the President of his college, he said, There's no way he'll canceled graduation. So. So yeah, so we're just, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be so much fun. And he's just so he's so I mean, he is so excited every time we talk to him. I just can't wait. He's like, so looking forward to next week, as

Rick Denton  36:51  
evidenced by the text week. So he sent this to us and it's in Tana Japan presentation done and dusted only a few more major things left

Clancy Denton  37:03  
up, and we both responded getting closer inside. Yeah, I did, like his, you know. So in his Japanese part of the final is, they have to do an oral presentation. And he did, he did his on nightlife in Japan. And, you know, because he was there, he experienced it. He had he said, Man, my professor, I could see or light up because everyone else has been boring and educational. And mine was about fun. And true Tanner fashion mats. But yeah. And he you know, he's already said, I had to send him the schedule of everything that we have scheduled. And then he's added in a few things that, that his friends want, you know, he said, no, they want the Dentons to come y'all have to come to these things. So looking forward to Casey Moore's. Yeah, so it's just going to be it's gonna be a fun

Rick Denton  38:01  
and that is so to close this out. There. Those that are listening to this kind of real time. We don't know if we're going to have an episode The week of graduation if we do it might be some snack apples from the time that we're out there. It may or may not we don't know. And so if it's break, just hang with it. Just enjoy and then we'll be back certainly the following Thursday to talk all about graduate. Yeah.

Clancy Denton  38:23  
And you know, in the midst of the graduations, we also have a daughter that we have to move out of her dorm so we'll be doing that as well. And that may

Rick Denton  38:33  
be part of the snack. Well, that'd be too late. But you may see some road trip video again, as we drive to and from Tucson in Tempe

Clancy Denton  38:39  
now. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. I'm really looking forward to it rolls

Rick Denton  38:43  
and graduation. Good times.

Clancy Denton  38:47  
All right, there you go. It's been another episode of the loud quiet

Rick Denton  38:50  
living the empty nest.

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