Inside Out In The empty nest - E44

Rick Denton  0:00  
What would inside out if it was the empty nester what new emotions would be added? At the empty nest phase?

Clancy Denton  0:09  
This is the loud quiet, living the empty nest. Hey guys, welcome back. Episode 44. This week has been a little bit of not good. I think I'm ready for June to be done. We had our one big Hi of you know, going out to visit Tanner for his birthday. Which then I got COVID Yeah, there

Rick Denton  0:38  
it is. Yeah. So there are a lot of folks that are listening to you going, Oh, what's up with Clinton? That's what?

Clancy Denton  0:44  
I've never had it. This is the first time so Tegan is the only COVID Virgin left in our house. Now. She has not had it. But

Rick Denton  0:53  
is that is that a phrase? I've never heard that before.

Clancy Denton  0:56  
But yeah, so this was the first time that I was. I had it. And you know, we've said all along Oh, you probably had it and just didn't know it. No. I would have known it. If you had one

Rick Denton  1:11  
like this. Your your experience was not a good. Yeah. So you're still this is

Clancy Denton  1:15  
days. Yeah. And it was I mean, yeah, it's not as bad. As you know, other people have had it. I'm just, I'm done now. I'm ready to feel like myself again. I'm ready to

Rick Denton  1:28  
do well with beings. Who does what is silly statement, but at times when it's okay. You know, you know, you need to rest you're up doing things. You're you're moving around. The best

Clancy Denton  1:39  
patient. Okay. You weren't even here. So, don't. I spent all day Wednesday in bed. I spent a lot of Thursday in and out of bed. Right. But I cannot just lay in bed. I mean, I I've watched all the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders show. It was actually pretty good on Netflix.

Rick Denton  2:02  
It is true. You got to watch stuff that I have no interest in.

Clancy Denton  2:05  
I watched the sherry Papini perfect wife. I think that's on Amazon Prime. Very good. If you know that story. So yes, I binge watch. I don't think I even turned on the TV though, a couple of days because I just my eyeballs are bugging out. But yeah. So that is why I sound the way I do. I may not be as energetic as I usually am. But we'll see how this goes. Yeah, but I love talking to Tanner when he was like, oh, yeah, you know, he's like He and Rick goes, How many times have you heard he's like, I think I'm up to four. Like, oh my god.

Rick Denton  2:42  
Well remember, he was one of the early ones because he goes to school and decides to go. Party. Weekend bounce back

Clancy Denton  2:48  
so fast. Oh, yeah. What you know, I know. But what makes me really angry. Which speaking of angry, because we'll get into what we're talking about today. I am in good shape. Oh, yeah. Well, the

Rick Denton  3:01  
fires didn't care.

Clancy Denton  3:02  
I well, but it does. I wanted to bounce back and not there yet. So no,

Rick Denton  3:10  
you're not there. You certainly can hear it. You can see it a personality. You just you see it. It's it's a part of you have definitely gotten a lot better.

Clancy Denton  3:18  
Well, yeah, I felt better. Yesterday that. Well,

Rick Denton  3:23  
what inspired the show? Right. So but yeah, I think all of us and hopefully by the time this show is released, you'll be totally back to normal, but God

Clancy Denton  3:33  
will better be there.

Rick Denton  3:35  
We got some more serious issues going on. Yeah. Well, it was you were able to get out yesterday. And we decided to take advantage of Tegan discount. And if you are somehow just now listening, but our daughter's home from college, she is working at Cinemark which is a movie chain. So we're like alright, well, we got her we got ourselves some, some, some movies to see. So we went and saw inside out too. And I just thought of one picture that we will definitely be putting up there because when you have a daughter who works in concessions, or I'm sorry, at Cinemark there's discounts to be had and not only do we get our tickets free concessions are widely discounted. And so we went out in there, and Tegan was laughing at us because we're like, concession

Clancy Denton  4:19  
people like we rarely get that and it's just crap. I mean,

Rick Denton  4:27  
well yeah, it's candy, popcorn and junk. So yeah, you're in there. And so we've got a picture that we sent to Tanner that's almost like we're displaying our man yeah, look at our riches with our candy and our popcorn. So we did we went to go see inside out too and what we wanted to do today, and I do I want to encourage all hang on if you're watching hang on until the end because I want to do a little twist with this with us. You and I have talked about it but I want to talk about inside out too because the movie itself is amazing. But I want to talk about Well, what it might mean to an empty nester what that might look like so hang tight as we as we get through there through the movie review and then let's have a little discussion about the empty nest part of it. And I

Clancy Denton  5:10  
do I love the fact that the first inside out which what did we look up what year it came out forgot. Tegan was young though. I mean, she was probably late elementary or early middle school I think probably. And so well, yeah. Because this was when we we actually went to the same theater Frisco square Polly hadn't been opened that long. Oh, it was it was the new one. Yeah. And I mean, we stood in line,

Rick Denton  5:38  
because you couldn't buy reserved seats. That gives you a context of how long ago they were online,

Clancy Denton  5:41  
you couldn't buy anything? Yeah, right. You'd have to go out or anything,

Rick Denton  5:46  
buy your tickets early, but you could not reserve a seat. So you had to if you want not to sit on the front row, looking at the sky, now we

Clancy Denton  5:52  
I and Tegan still remembers. And she said, you know, we had to eat dinner at the theater because we were in line to make sure we got and Tanner wasn't with us, it was just her and soccer. Soccer but so that was full circle that we are going to see it at the same theater. You know, we thought the first one.

Rick Denton  6:14  
And I can't imagine that listeners, viewers have not heard of the movie. But just in case the setup is this is taking and taking in the inside of a young girl's mind. The first one was when she was elementary school may and now she's 13. So inside out to is she's 13. And characters are played. Characters inside her mind are playing different emotions. So the first movie had joy. It had anger, it had disgust. And it had sadness and missing fear. So you had your five and it was a brilliant, just the way that they did it both the physical manifestation of what a mind would look like and the journeys that they took place in there, along with weaving in with the emotions do and how that works inside of a little girl's mind. It is for me one of my top 10 movies. And that's a pretty high bar. But it has so caught me then, and still catches me today how amazing it was. And

Clancy Denton  7:18  
in the first movie, you know, her parents, it also showed their cheer. And they had the same five emotions. And so it showed from their perspective to you know, what, how they were dealing with, right with what their daughter was experiencing.

Rick Denton  7:39  
And there was a allusion to this, but there was the big red button. And that big red button was what is puberty? Right? That was kind of a an ending joke. And the first one well, now she's 13. And she's at least the beginning. I don't want to say too much. But obviously she's 13. And puberty introduces a whole host of new emotion, we should say

Clancy Denton  8:02  
there will be some spoilers if you haven't seen it, or if you're planning on seeing it. I mean, there will be some spoilers because we will be talking about things. You know, like I don't even remember, I don't know how you want to get into it. But the, the mountain of so she she has memories, every memory is created into these little balls. And in the first movie, those were more of the foot. Like I think that was more

Rick Denton  8:37  
of what would get lodged into memory at night. Right. And so

Clancy Denton  8:41  
I I liked this time that they focused on the ones that they had been shooting out. And that's what was Pilar joy,

Rick Denton  8:51  
who was focused on happiness. Joy, obviously, would if a memory was you know, one that she didn't think that I can believe in brain fart in the girl's name. But if she was not the the girl that she didn't think the girl needed to record in long term memory, she would physically shoot it to the back of the mind. And it was all of the stuff that was being put in the back of the mind back of the mind. What is her name?

Clancy Denton  9:19  
Her friends were grace. And they called her Minnesota the whole That's right, but what was oh my gosh, that's terrible. Okay, we have to think of her name.

Rick Denton  9:31  
She's gonna start Googling on the side here while we're doing it is and so they in this one they introduced that concept that was not there before. And so that became an important part of this. Another thing they added to this one is her memories, the ones that were recorded in long term, some of them joy would take down and put into the sort of pond that would create her belief system, what she believed about life what she believed about herself and there was a physical it almost looks like a flower odd Fact, that would become what she believed about herself things like, I'm a kind person, I'm good at Friend, friend, I'm good at hockey, I'm good at you. It's all positive sort of thing. In walks, not in walks, but suddenly, puberty happens. And it is a comical introduction into how puberty happens, including the introduction of and this isn't commercials, but yes, to some degree spoiler, three of the most teenage oriented emotions, that there could be it was fantastic. Your eyes are darting. So we have anxiety who plays a mask, the main character, we have embarrassment on we

Clancy Denton  10:46  
and envy, envy, I

Rick Denton  10:49  
totally forgot about envy. And there's a fifth that kind of shows up, but not really, there's a bit of a joke with her nostalgia.

Clancy Denton  10:57  
Oh, yeah. But that's, she's not there yet. We'll get to that one. But

Rick Denton  11:03  
anxiety was such a brilliant introduction, record embarrassment created a ton of fun and that aspect of it and embarrassment, found itself linking up with sadness, which is a very logical choice. There's a key and we're not going to probably spend, I don't necessarily intend for us to review the entire movie or anything like that. But the climax of the movie and how they handled a particular deep seated anxiety moment and how they got to this point, and how this was building up into what the little the teenage girls belief about herself, and how anxiety was polluting. Her sense of self was brilliant. Yes.

Clancy Denton  11:46  
I mean, the, if you imagine there's like this drawing, or this room that has all of these characters in it, and they're all drawing worst case scenarios, and anxiety is just feeding them because she thinks she's doing the right thing to help prepare her from something that girl Yes, to be able to deal with. Okay. But we've got to stop this from happening. So, you know, she's drawing her missing a goal. She's drawing her abandoning,

Rick Denton  12:20  
yeah, like, and it's all this took place as she was trying to go to sleep. And that's the thing that be I'm sorry, go

Clancy Denton  12:27  
ahead. No, I was just gonna say, and this entire movie took place over one weekend. Yeah, you know, they were just at hockey camp. So

Rick Denton  12:35  
this seat, yes, this scene that you're talking about is when she was trying to go to sleep. And so imagine how anxiety not the character but anxiety as it plays in our lives? How that does exactly that, that we start thinking about a worst case scenario, because we're trying to plan for it, we're trying to prepare for it. And how that keeps us awake. Yes. And it's just flooding into our forefront of our mind while that is happening.

Clancy Denton  12:59  
And anxiety is just whirling around the board while joy is in there trying to get them to draw different things, happy things, so that she could have happy thoughts,

Rick Denton  13:11  
which is when she started to fall asleep when those and they were just sort of innocuous, not not playing. And it is what was and I think T and the one is the one who said this on the way home. But we all felt that way. Anxiety wasn't necessarily portrayed as the villain, no, anxiety was an emotion that at her heart anxiety was trying to do what anxiety thought was right for the girl, even though it was wrong for the girl. And the again, spoilers hit you hit your mute button. What ended up becoming sort of the manifestation of the girl's self belief was weaving all of these emotions together, not just things that are forefront, there's a key element and how the release of all of those thoughts from the back of the mind, were able to be what unlocked the girl and be able to then create her full sense of self, not just the idealized sense of self Well,

Clancy Denton  14:06  
and what Joy said, I think joy is the one that set it to anxiety, you know, it's okay that we have these emotions, but you don't get to control all of her. That's right itself. And so it showed you and I think it showed that joy realized, okay, we can't be happy all the time, either. Joy has a bit of a discovery. You know, I mean, in the first movie, we did introduce sadness, and you know, so there were other emotions and anger. But that one statement of you don't get to control right, all of her thoughts, right. So yeah, it was a amazing depiction of we've we all deal with lowercase Ace anxiety, right? The non clinical verbs but you know, her having because the girl while all of this stuff is going on, she's sitting in the penalty box and she's having a panic attack and you have her heavy breathing client is racing she I mean and to see it going on what what? Whew I don't know who wrote this but whoever wrote it is depicted. I mean, it was just a perfect depiction of what?

Rick Denton  15:27  
Imagine the Tasmanian Devil and that swirling pneus of the Tasmanian devil. It was in the orange strings because anxiety is depicted as the orange color and just spinning around the control board that is the control board of the girl's mind and seeing that swirl and the chaos of that swirl. You could feel it you could any of us who have gone through a moment like that know you're looking at going that's that's exactly what happened to me. Yeah,

Clancy Denton  15:57  
it was just Yeah, it was spot on. Yeah.

Rick Denton  16:02  
Humor and all of that in there as well. This is you know, this isn't the it was a ton of laughs Let's not say all of them but there's some there's some that mostly

Clancy Denton  16:11  
adults there yesterday there were not a lot mostly adults and kids. Keegan's age I don't even think I saw many younger bright her which you're young you're young ones can see it because there's not anything bad in it but they will understand there's a level

Rick Denton  16:27  
they won't get out. They'll just enjoy it. They'll enjoy the fun the hygiene that exist and the silliness that does happen riding on her stream of consciousness that when she was super hungry or stream of consciousness filled with pizzas and hamburgers and all that until somehow anxiety was able to throw things in like broccoli, which I love rock

Clancy Denton  16:47  
night doesn't even want to get on it. She

Rick Denton  16:49  
won't ride the broccoli because disgusting. So appalled. There was so that I mean, that's the show that's inside out to you and I are not movie reviewers. There is a ton more that could be said about it should be said about it. I will just simply say brilliant. And domestic Pasto watching. Absolutely. And it half the fun is trying to recognize the voices. You were starting to say

Clancy Denton  17:12  
on we you know,

Rick Denton  17:14  
oh my gosh, so much fun. Yeah,

Clancy Denton  17:16  
she's the moody and she's fresh and care. And she's just like this long, a tall and she's just laying on

Rick Denton  17:24  
her head is always rolled backwards. Because she's so bored. She

Clancy Denton  17:29  
doesn't even want to get up and control the controller. So she just has it on her phone.

Rick Denton  17:36  
On we it was a lot of fun. There was a character that was introduced, but it was just and this old, old little lady comes out and her name is dystocia. And joy is no no, not yet. No, no. At least 10 years. We've got to get through marriage. We gotta get through college graduated. And so you and so she shoved her back in there. But it gave me a little bit of a thought. And it's the one that I want to talk about with you today is we did say this on the way home inside out was Elementary School inside out to is when she's a teenager or a puberty teenager. I don't know if they can do inside out three because you're then you're starting to get into some serious topics. If you're talking about like high school or college, like are you going to really deal with the emotion of temptation when it's drugs or alcohol or sex or those kinds of things? But it got me thinking beyond that. What would inside out if it was the empty nester what new emotions would be added at the emptiness phase. I got a couple that came to mind but I'm curious if beyond those.

Clancy Denton  18:45  
Okay, my brain is not working like 100%. Maybe is that one forgetfulness? Maybe? That's not really an emotion but

Rick Denton  18:56  
it's just a state. Paul, our preacher Paul made a joke similar to that about forgetfulness on stage today when he was describing conversation.

Clancy Denton  19:06  
And then Nostalgia's definitely and obviously, we've brought that into our podcast let me let me know maybe I don't have so much anxiety but maybe Worry, worry, which goes along, but not so much worry for you and me, but worried about your kids got as they're not under your roof anymore. You can't keep total tabs on them.

Rick Denton  19:39  
So okay, so take anxiety and fear and just point outward, that it's not your internal fear about something or your internal anxiety but it's the the outcome of the outward Yeah, I could see that.

Clancy Denton  19:54  
I think there's certain ones that you know, I don't know I don't know that. There's an New emotions or if it's just because obviously we still have joy. We still have anger, we still have fear we still you know, we have all of those. I don't know that I get embarrassed as much anymore because I just don't care.

Rick Denton  20:16  
Yeah, so maybe maybe the big pink balls. Embarrassment guy isn't

Clancy Denton  20:21  
like there. Yeah, just

Rick Denton  20:25  
you know, maybe we should isolate out.

Clancy Denton  20:27  
Maybe that's maybe that's what and I don't know that it's necessarily acquainted with empty nester but just getting older, right? The what would be the emotion to where, you know, I don't care what other people think of me anymore. You know, it's not like I'm some raging bitch or something but but you know what I mean? I don't that's gonna be the title

Rick Denton  20:49  
of the episode. It's not like I'm some raging bitch, Episode 44.

Clancy Denton  20:54  
You know, there were definitely times in our life that and especially, I mean, I can only speak for myself that if something was going on, and I couldn't go because we had something else I'd be like, Oh, I don't want to, you know, like FOMO Yeah. And now I'm like, I don't care, you know, and I just don't you get what I'm saying? I do. I

Rick Denton  21:18  
don't know what the I do get what you're saying. I don't know what the label is. It's almost like a mature version of onwy.

Clancy Denton  21:24  
Yeah, it's almost like an like an indifference but not Bucha.

Rick Denton  21:28  
So negative, like, the positive version of I don't care. Right. You know, so the, that's interesting that when I think we need to, probably off air, let's figure out what the label is for that. Because you're right. That is, it's almost a non emotion, that you aren't feeling emotion about what others think and

Clancy Denton  21:48  
not trying to impress other people anymore. Now. And and Paul brought this up today. I, I am trying everything in my power to not age. I mean, so I don't know what that emotion is. But that one is very high on my list of when he said, one of the questions he asked us today was, what do you spend most of your time devoted to on a daily basis, mine is anti aging.

Rick Denton  22:25  
So there, so there's elements in there. And again, it's kind of these are negative words. And so I don't mean that, but Pride. Pride was not an emotion that was brought into. And so perhaps which is kind of the opposite of the I don't give a but perhaps I don't vanity Well, I mean, but these are all negative. But here's

Clancy Denton  22:43  
the thing is that I'm not doing it for other people. I'm doing it for myself, because I look at myself in the mirror and I see wrinkles, I see old lady legs and I see things that so I'm not I don't I don't care. I'll walk around. I mean, it's not like I don't leave my house. But I'm that's in that's an internal meeting. So

Rick Denton  23:09  
yeah, that's where that's where the and again, forgive me for the words I just I my source active in my brain right now. But it's kind of the pride and vanity but it's internal, not so much what I what others would think obviously, you combine it with that I don't give a and that. Those are interesting, like when I we didn't talk about this before other than the question itself. So I didn't know that that was gonna be your answer. But that's

Clancy Denton  23:33  
always been. I mean, yeah, I'll just get body image has always been a thing with me since at a very young age or younger ish age. So that's just something you know. I don't do it to a detrimental state. They're probably worse sometimes that I was but that's just always been a thing with me. Yeah. Yeah.

Rick Denton  24:04  
I know what we label that. But yeah, that's, that's, that's it. Okay. That one's good. The that one's good. Like you needed the validation. Let's just strike that from there. I mean, that's just a transition phrase. I am I'm intrigued by that. So when that came to mind for me, again nostalgia, but that she was already introduced cynicism. I am, I am finding myself combating cynicism. And even the book that you and I have joked about writing is rooted in cynicism and calling out where I got a lot of people you know, when we watch and you and I are very specifically non political in this, but when we watch a debate that was such a disaster for two people, that there are such awful choices available for us from a government perspective, when the truck pulls out in front of us driving like a ridiculous person as an indicator of what everyone else is doing on the road when I'm coming home and I'm not kidding that over half of the people when I look over on their phone on the Tollway in and you could list all these things that I find myself allowing cynicism to creep in. And I don't think that I would have said that word. I wouldn't even thought of the this question for us to talk about today. If we hadn't watched that Steve Martin documentary last night, where he said, at 75, I'm happier than I've ever been before. And I and well, happiness is not we're talking about here. But I sense an optimism, a contentment, and a comfort that I think in older age and an empty nest, I think there's a branching that you can really go down the hill, I'm going to just become more cynical the world is crap. And I wish it were the way it were in the 70s and 80s. Or, I'm going to be optimistic about all the great things that have happened to me in my life, and that are happening in the world and all of that. So to me, those two emotions aren't new. But cynicism and optimism, I think are ones that start to take on a different role in the control panel of the mind. So inside out empty nest, would introduce those two and you'd have the crotchety Get off my lawn guy, and you'd have however, optimism would be manifested.

Clancy Denton  26:28  
I mean, I've I can see it in myself, too. And, like, you know, we went down a path of it the other night at

Rick Denton  26:38  
a value that you did not you i Oh, there was a time that we did, but yeah,

Clancy Denton  26:42  
oh, yeah. No, I that day

Rick Denton  26:45  
that we were traveling, you're like, Alright, we're done. You

Clancy Denton  26:47  
know what? Look, is my microphone on? Yeah. Okay. I sound weird. Sorry. You're just, I'll let you go back and say whatever you want to about the plane, since that's where I probably got COVID. But yes, it was getting a little bit too much for me. Yeah. But what I was going to say is, you know, the other night, I had dinner with my girlfriends, we started down the path. And I don't know if it's because now our kids are all out of the schools. We don't have to. We don't have to love where we live anymore. Because we're not stuck here. If we wanted to go and do something about it, we can go do something about it. Right. So I don't know if it's just creating more cynicism, because we don't have to kind of be Pollyanna about it. Because we know we're, you know, doing what's right for our children at the time. You know, I don't know. But yeah, but

Rick Denton  27:53  
I don't know that we I don't think it's an either or, like, I think that's a factor. I can be grumpy about the here. Here's a great example, I can be grumpy about how North Texas is not all that attractive. Or I can be really optimistic about you know, that trail over here that is right here in our neighborhood. It's beautiful. When you're inside the trail. It's a matter of what you look at. And I realized this gets into, I mean, the roots of amateur psychology and what you choose to focus on or whatever. But I think that those are not to the exclusion of what you were talking about emotions coming in. I think these are some of those categories that would be part of inside out the empty nest years. Yeah.

Clancy Denton  28:33  
It's mindset. I mean, yeah. And that is in every phase of your life. You know, Tegan was even talking about it. And I think she'd be fine with me talking, you know, she was even talking about when she was watching the negative things being drawn and sent to the girl. You know, she's that I used to do that. I'm sure she would do that. Before every cheer competition you mentioned during that fire, you know, you know, just visualizing things that could go wrong. Drill Team. Yes. Visualizing, oh, I forgotten this. I'd forgotten that, you know. But yeah, so it's so interesting, you know, why do our minds go to that place? You know, it's just, I mean, well,

Rick Denton  29:25  
I have a spiritual answer. Because yeah, because of actual evil that exists in in the Yeah, the world is a spiritual answer. And so I think having to consciously fill your mind with the thoughts that are good, is is how I will say this when I first was thinking about this concept as a question and cynicism came to mind. I don't want to be the crotchety old man. I don't think that's who I am I and so if I don't want to become though, then I need to do I can't just passively hope that doesn't happen. I have to consciously choose to seek out optimism. And yeah, you and I have a very sarcastic bent at times. And there's always going to be elements of where we're commenting on life as we see it. But going making sure that that humor doesn't then manifest into deeper cynicism is key.

Clancy Denton  30:24  
And I, you know, we didn't talk about how they depicted sarcasm I was avoid that was new. Yeah, I liked that. Because, you know, a created basically, excuse me a chasm, sorry. And people on this side would say something, and it would come across as sarcastic. And so that was interesting. depiction. And I think one thing I have issues with, and I don't think I did this as much, except, as the kids have gotten older. I just And it's, I play every, you know, like yesterday, Tanner was going out on the lake. So I'm like, Oh, my gosh, what if something happens to their boat? What if something happened? You know, I start thinking about, you know, okay, Tegan is driving home from work tonight. Late, you know, it's just I start, that's your extra anxiety? Yeah, how can I know? And it's not focused on me. Yeah, it's focused on them. And so I have to then say, no, stop, you know, it's but yeah,

Rick Denton  31:29  
there's almost like there's in in xiety, an extra xiety here. Maybe we just introduced a new clinical term in xiety. That's harder to say that x anxiety. And that X xiety that you're describing, is, it probably started showing up the moment that the kids were not physically co present, whether that was younger or later, but that it certainly grows and emptiness phase.

Clancy Denton  31:54  
And I think, you know, I can tell, you know, in the last month, you and I have been creating scenarios that have not played out, you know, every

Rick Denton  32:11  
single time I think the right word every is accurate here, that we've come up with a scenario it's been false and I don't want to talk about context. But yeah, it's been false. And you know what, I'm gonna choose optimism that what a great lesson for us in a safe way that nothing was damaged. No relationships were harmed. No physical things like nothing bad actually happened and therefore what a great lesson for me. And it sounds like a lesson for you and then a lesson for us of all right, listen, orange anxiety Yeah, let's dial that back. Let's let's bring that optimism emotion back in and and let cynicism take a backseat. Huh? Yeah. Well, this was fun.

Clancy Denton  32:57  
Oh, mini mini therapy session. Okay, so

Rick Denton  33:00  
you've knocked your mind probably time for us to wrap up here. Do go out and see. Do go out and see inside out to Pixar. If you'd like to reach back to us about let's Let's shop talk this inside out the empty nest yours. Just reach out we'll we'll work this together. Maybe

Clancy Denton  33:20  
hopefully next week, I'll sound more like myself

Rick Denton  33:23  
that we'll call that the recovery. Well, once again, it has been a wide ranging but a lot of fun on the loud quiet, living the empty nest.

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